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RamakrishnaРамакришна

3 passagesотрывков: 3

Each date opens its day beside the list, with these passages marked.Каждая дата открывает свой день рядом со списком, где отрывки этого автора отмечены.

  1. 2. Бог живет во всех людях, но не все люди живут в боге. В этом причина страданий людей.

    Как лампа не может гореть без огня, так не может человек жить без бога.

    Браминская мудрость. [Рамакришна.]

    2. God lives in all men, but not all men live in God. Herein lies the cause of the sufferings of men.

    As a lamp cannot burn without fire, so man cannot live without God.

    Brahmin wisdom [Ramakrishna].

    From Ramakrishna: His Life and Sayings · joined by Tolstoy from several places .
    In English · F. Max Müller (ed.), 1898
    God is in all men, but all men are not in God : that is the reason why they suffer.
    As a lamp does not burn without oil, so a man cannot live without God.
    Source text: archive.org
    Tolstoy’s own version · Мысли мудрых людей на каждый день
    Бог живет во всех людях, но не все люди живут в боге. В этом причина страданий людей. Как лампа не может гореть без огня, так не может человек жить без бога.
    Source text: tolstoy.ru
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    The words shown were found, word for word, in the saved source text. Ramakrishna: His Life and Sayings (1898), Sayings 215 and 288 (also 19), quoted together in Müller's introduction.

    Two of Ramakrishna's sayings as Max Müller prints them, joined: 'God is in all men, but all men are not in God: that is the reason why they suffer' (215) and 'As a lamp does not burn without oil, so man cannot live without God' (288). Tolstoy changes the oil to fire: «Как лампа не может гореть без огня». The entry is word for word his Thoughts of Wise Men (1903), 22 February, signed «Браминская мудрость (Рамакришна)», one of the 22 days Tolstoy sent late; the Jubilee commentary (vol. 40) says the Ramakrishna of those days was translated from the German journal Theosophischer Wegweiser (1902-1903), not found online, so whether the fire is Tolstoy's or the German translator's is not known. The printed editions of the Circle signed it «Браминская мудрость»; «Рамакришна» is the Jubilee editors' addition. Ramakrishna taught in Bengali; Müller printed the sayings in English with the help of Ramakrishna's disciples (he names Vivekananda and the editor of the Brahmavadin), and the Bengali was not traced.

  2. 2. Когда дождевая вода течет по желобам, то нам кажется, что она вытекает из них, тогда как в действительности она падает с неба. То же и со святыми поучениями, которые высказывают нам божественные люди. Кажется, что они исходят от них, в действительности же они исходят от бога.

    Рамакришна.

    2. When rainwater runs down the gutters, it seems to us that it flows out of them, whereas in reality it falls from the sky. So it is with the holy teachings that godly men speak to us. It seems that they come from them, but in reality they come from God.

    Ramakrishna.

    From Râmakrishna: His Life and Sayings · shortened by Tolstoy .
    In English · F. Max Müller (ed.), 1898
    297. As the rain-water falling upon the roof of a house flows down to the ground through spouts grotesquely shaped like the tiger's head, thus seeming to come out of tigers' mouths, while in reality it descends from the sky ; …
    … even so are the holy instructions that come out of the mouths of godly men, which seem to be uttered by those men themselves, while in reality they proceed from the throne of God.
    Source text: archive.org
    Tolstoy’s own version · Мысли мудрых людей на каждый день
    Когда дождевая вода течет по желобам, то нам кажется, что она вытекает из них, тогда как в действительности она падает с неба. То же и с святыми поучениями, которые высказывают нам божественные люди. Кажется, что они исходят от них, в действительности же они исходят от бога.
    Source text: tolstoy.ru
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    The words shown were found, word for word, in the saved source text. Râmakrishna: His Life and Sayings (1898), Saying 297 (compare 225).

    Ramakrishna's saying as Max Müller prints it (no. 297), without the tigers: 'As the rain-water falling upon the roof of a house flows down to the ground through spouts grotesquely shaped like the tiger's head, thus seeming to come out of tigers' mouths, while in reality it descends from the sky; even so are the holy instructions that come out of the mouths of godly men, which seem to be uttered by those men themselves, while in reality they proceed from the throne of God.' Tolstoy keeps the image and the sense; the spouts are plain gutters («по желобам»), and 'the throne of God' is «от бога» (from God). The Circle repeats word for word Tolstoy's Thoughts of Wise Men (1903), 19 September, one of the 22 days he sent late, whose Ramakrishna the Jubilee commentary (vol. 40) says he translated from the German journal Theosophischer Wegweiser (1902-1903); that journal was not found online, so the cuts may be the German translator's. Saying 225 is a variant (the spouts shaped like a tiger, a cow, or a bull). Ramakrishna taught in Bengali; the Bengali was not traced. Tolstoy used the saying again, shortened, in «Изречения мыслителей разных стран и разных веков» (Jubilee vol. 40), signed «По Рамакришне».

  3. 1. Лепестки цветов опадают, когда плод начинает расти. Так отпадут от тебя твои слабости, когда начнет расти в тебе сознание бога.

    Хотя бы в продолжение тысячелетий мрак наполнял пространство, оно становится тотчас же светло, когда свет проникает в него. Так и твоя душа: как бы долго она ни была поглощена мраком, она тотчас вся осветится, как только бог откроет в ней глаза свои.

    Браминская мудрость [Рамакришна].

    1. The petals of flowers fall when the fruit begins to grow. So your weaknesses will fall away from you when the consciousness of God begins to grow in you.

    Even if darkness has filled a space for thousands of years, the space becomes light at once when light enters it. So too with your soul: however long it has been swallowed up by darkness, it will at once be lit up entirely, as soon as God opens his eyes in it.

    Brahmin wisdom [Ramakrishna].

    From Râmakrishna: His Life and Sayings · reworded by Tolstoy .
    What changed

    Ramakrishna’s “Divinity in thee” becomes “the consciousness of God” in you, and the many births whose misdoings vanish “before the single glance of the Almighty’s gracious look” give way to the soul, lit up at once “as soon as God opens his eyes in it”: God’s glance from without becomes his eyes opening within. †

    † An intermediate translation may have made this change.

    Leo Tolstoy as Editor: Recast in Tolstoy’s faith ›

    In English · F. Max Müller (ed.), 1898
    When the fruit grows the petals drop off of themselves.
    So when the Divinity in thee increases, the weakness of humanity in thee will vanish.
    The darkness of centuries is dispersed at once as soon as a light is brought into the room.
    The accumulated ignorances and misdoings of innumerable births vanish before the single glance of the Almighty's gracious look.
    Source text: archive.org
    Tolstoy’s own version · Мысли мудрых людей на каждый день
    Листья цветов опадают, когда плод начинает расти. Так же отпадут от тебя твои слабости, когда начнет расти в тебе сознание бога.
    Так и твоя душа: как бы долго она ни была поглощена мраком, она тотчас вся просветлеет, как только бог откроет в ней глаза свои.
    Source text: tolstoy.ru
    Details

    The words shown were found, word for word, in the saved source text. Râmakrishna: His Life and Sayings (1898), Sayings 177 and 191.

    Two of Ramakrishna's sayings as Max Müller prints them. Tolstoy keeps the images and changes the sense of each: 'when the Divinity in thee increases, the weakness of humanity in thee will vanish' becomes «так отпадут от тебя твои слабости, когда начнет расти в тебе сознание бога» (so your weaknesses will fall from you when the consciousness of God begins to grow in you); 'the darkness of centuries' becomes «в продолжение тысячелетий мрак наполнял пространство» (for thousands of years darkness filled a space); and 'the accumulated ignorances and misdoings of innumerable births vanish before the single glance of the Almighty's gracious look' becomes «Так и твоя душа: как бы долго она ни была поглощена мраком, она тотчас вся осветится, как только бог откроет в ней глаза свои» (so your soul, however long darkness swallowed it, lights up wholly at once as soon as God opens his eyes in it): the many births go, and God's glance from outside becomes his eyes opening within the soul. The Circle repeats Thoughts of Wise Men (1903), 30 November, with three changes: «Листья» (leaves) becomes «Лепестки» (petals), Max Müller's word; «Так же» becomes «Так»; «просветлеет» becomes «осветится». The Jubilee commentary (vol. 40) says the two sayings of 30 November were translated by Tolstoy from the German journal Theosophischer Wegweiser, no. 9, June 1903, pp. 249–251; that issue was not found online (archive.org holds the volume for 1905–06), so whether the changes are Tolstoy's or the German translator's is not known. The printed editions of the Circle signed it «Браминская мудрость»; the Jubilee editors added «Рамакришна». Ramakrishna taught in Bengali; Max Müller printed the sayings in English as his disciples collected them, and the Bengali was not traced.